We don’t know, Guesticus. And it’s good to see Chemiclord fall off his “all marriage is rape” and “Disney is all about spouse abuse” high horse and land head first into bedrock.
That was actually the entire point of the red herring, really… how our minds read patterns into things that aren’t really there, and how we build scenarios, no matter how implausible, because they “fit” the story in our heads.
For example, logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil, even with family ties in the same region. Yet, when presented with circumstantial evidence, we tend to jump on established tropes, and cling to them even as contradictory evidence emerges.
> logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil
Logically, the chances of almost anything happening would be practically nil.
Consider: Throw a normal 6-sided die 10 times and record the results. Your chances of getting that string of results were over 1 in 60 millions, yet you got it…
Add the fact that, in fiction, the more interesting improbable events do usually happen and you understand the reaction.
Also, can we decide once and for all on the correct spelling of that name? Is it Niels (as it is spelled on planet Earth) or Neils (Exiern-specific)?
Lurker your entire thesis hinges on your definition of interesting. Personally I find the story told here is interesting, and for what it’s worth have never really thought that Tiff’s mum was Neil’s sister, that’d be far too cliche for this tale.
Probability is a useful method for simplifying the complexity of reality so we can understand it but it’s worth remembering that it is just that and no more. Einstein was right “God does not play dice.”
Probability is about the perception of reality and not the actuality of it.
@chemiclord
I am from England but my dad from the American town of 400 i now live in now(thats over 200 years old).(the local native American tribe married whites in trade for land instead of Glass beads and one way trip to death camp, Or they raided the women. Not all of us (native Americans) are descended from trusting moronic peace lovers.) Anyways I found out 5 of my neighbors are 2nd cousins my girlfriend a 2nd by marriage.. logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil, ??? errh No. Logically its the other way round… Every one in this Town less than 4th cousins removed. I doubt Tiff and Neils Tribe/ family’s/ Villagers could be bigger. Before someone says no tribe ever did that , let me state I am a direct descendant of Frances Slocum..
@jonathan… sure, if you want to go back enough, they would share some very tangential bonds from the founding of the town. But it’s certainly nothing that they would call themselves “cousins” or “uncle” or “niece.”
Not seeing what Niels and Bohrs look like is part of the mystery (like with Joe Dredd), plus it means 2 less faces for the artist to come up with and remember to draw correctly each time
How many tribes are there? How influential are the different tribes?
There are three tribes; Ash, Skuld, and Hulfdane.
Those three tribes are further divided among a hundred different clans (roughly analogous to families).
Raviner-Behr ended the conflicts among those clans, and now all three tribes defer to the Ash Tribe (and more specifically to the clan he led).
The melting pot hasn’t exactly mixed perfectly, as you’re starting to see.
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So, Neils’ sister and Tiff’s mother, they really are two different people?
We don’t know, Guesticus. And it’s good to see Chemiclord fall off his “all marriage is rape” and “Disney is all about spouse abuse” high horse and land head first into bedrock.
Yes.
They are not the same person.
That was actually the entire point of the red herring, really… how our minds read patterns into things that aren’t really there, and how we build scenarios, no matter how implausible, because they “fit” the story in our heads.
For example, logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil, even with family ties in the same region. Yet, when presented with circumstantial evidence, we tend to jump on established tropes, and cling to them even as contradictory evidence emerges.
Edit: cryptic mirror said that not Chemiclord. Sorry.
chemiclord,
> logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil
Logically, the chances of almost anything happening would be practically nil.
Consider: Throw a normal 6-sided die 10 times and record the results. Your chances of getting that string of results were over 1 in 60 millions, yet you got it…
Add the fact that, in fiction, the more interesting improbable events do usually happen and you understand the reaction.
Also, can we decide once and for all on the correct spelling of that name? Is it Niels (as it is spelled on planet Earth) or Neils (Exiern-specific)?
Lurker your entire thesis hinges on your definition of interesting. Personally I find the story told here is interesting, and for what it’s worth have never really thought that Tiff’s mum was Neil’s sister, that’d be far too cliche for this tale.
Probability is a useful method for simplifying the complexity of reality so we can understand it but it’s worth remembering that it is just that and no more. Einstein was right “God does not play dice.”
Probability is about the perception of reality and not the actuality of it.
@chemiclord
I am from England but my dad from the American town of 400 i now live in now(thats over 200 years old).(the local native American tribe married whites in trade for land instead of Glass beads and one way trip to death camp, Or they raided the women. Not all of us (native Americans) are descended from trusting moronic peace lovers.) Anyways I found out 5 of my neighbors are 2nd cousins my girlfriend a 2nd by marriage.. logically, the chances that Niels and Tiffany would be related would be practically nil, ??? errh No. Logically its the other way round… Every one in this Town less than 4th cousins removed. I doubt Tiff and Neils Tribe/ family’s/ Villagers could be bigger. Before someone says no tribe ever did that , let me state I am a direct descendant of Frances Slocum..
@jonathan… sure, if you want to go back enough, they would share some very tangential bonds from the founding of the town. But it’s certainly nothing that they would call themselves “cousins” or “uncle” or “niece.”
<- Comes from a small town himself.
Now that all that is established…. Can we see him out of his armour please? Or, perhaps, cleaving someone in two?
There actually IS a reason Niels doesn’t take off his armor much, and when he does, it’s just his helmet for short periods of time.
Bohrs doesn’t take off his helmet at all… it’s all a matter of where the scars are.
As for the cleaving in two… he’s gonna give it his honest shot by the time this story arc is through.
Not seeing what Niels and Bohrs look like is part of the mystery (like with Joe Dredd), plus it means 2 less faces for the artist to come up with and remember to draw correctly each time
@chemiclord Thanks for the clarification. I supposed I’ll settle for the cleaving.
@Guesticus I just wanna see him 1 time…. then I’ll be happy.
Epsecially?